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2008 RANCHO CAMULOS MUSEUM ORAL HISTORY PROJECT

INTERVIEW: SHIRLEY RUBEL LORENZ
DATE: NOVEMBER 11, 2008
INTERVIEWER: MONICA DOLLISON, VCCCD INTERN

INTERVIEW STARTS AT TAPE COUNTER #50

SRL: Rolling Hills Estates is one of the four different city groups on the Palos Verdes
peninsula. Do you know where that is?

MD: Woodland Hills? Is that what you said?

SRL: Pales Verdes, Rolling Hills Estates is name of the town, city I live in, but it's on the Pales
Verdes peninsula. There are four different city town groups on that one peninsula that
goes between the Santa Monica bay and the L.A. harbor, it's that big piece of property
that goes out into the ocean.

MD: Yes, I was just actually out there yesterday with my friends. w We had a day off of school
so we went out to the beach, out to Santa Monica.

SRL: Well that was a nice thing to do.

MD: It's a bit of a drive from here, Camulos, to there.

SRL: Oh yeah, it is, its 65 miles. And I leave early, you know, to leave by 5:30 am anyway, to
get through some of the traffic. And going home is another deal.

·MD: It's a whole other beast.

SRL: But any way, I used to be able to spend most of the day here, but sometimes over night I
would go up to the hill house, which was at the top of the hill across the way, which was
built right after World War II, as soon as we could get materials to build with, in those
days, which was probably little. It was probably built around 1947 or 1948, it's a modem
adobe, but I kept that for the family, and they come here and spend time. We're having
another family wedding in March, we've have one in August. Nieces, children of my
sister, Boo, otherwise her Christian name is Nathalie, but she's been Boo since she was
bom. Generally I come up and go back on the same day because I've got a home of my
own there and I've got a dog, and I've got birds, and I have koy fish, and peacocks live
there too, wild ones.

MD: They have wild ones out there?

SRL: Oh yeah, they were brought in, in the 1800's, and there're still there, a lot of people don't
like them, and a lot of people love them. They know that my dog won't touch them, so
they come right up and they just sit down against my sliding glass door and just rest.

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