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MD:  The library was in the main adobe?


                SRL:  Yeah, yeah, but when mother would read it would be in the master bedroom in front of
                        the, there was a lovely fireplace there, and lovely small couches and things, so we'd be in
                       there and she'd read.


                MD:  In the adobe, did you guys each have your own rooms as siblings or did you share rooms?

                SRL:  Well, my earliest memories, we had a nurse, we had a nanny, and we were in these lower
                       rooms in the back there, that's called Ramona's room, and Boo and I would have our
                       meals there, but when we discovered, decided, that we were human·enough to come to
                       the dinner table, then we came to the dinner table. Dinners were always fantastic because
                       there such wonderful conversation and we talked and sometimes there were friends there
                       and sometimes it was just us, but they'd been listening to the radio and been up with
                       what's going on in the world and there'd be discussion about all these things, and what's
                       going on in our lives, but also what's going on in the whole world. Dad had friends he
                       was in contact with, writing letters to, all over Europe, some of them even from the
                       Philippines. So that was all very interesting, so we had a pretty good idea of what as
                       going on in the world, without realizing that we did, you know? Of course we had to eat
                       everything on our plate, and we had to have good manners, but it was always fun, there
                       was always a lot of joking and so forth.

                MD:    Would a lot of, because I know a lot of the workers were your dad old friends, would
                       they come in and join you at the dinner table or was it just mostly you and your family?

                SRL:  No, no, well there were enough ofus to fill up the table, they had a wonderful bunk
                       house, and they had a very fine cook, and I remember going with dad to Smart and Final
                       before it was open to the regular people, when it was just for restaurants and businesses
                       and so forth, and he'd get all of this stuff from Smart and Final. And of course it was
                       during the Depression too, and no matter what, even though things were scarce, money
                       was scarce, there was always a way of being able to feed the tramps who came through,
                       and so forth and so on. And sometimes, if there was a something, a job for them to do,
                       they could do that for a few days if they wanted to, but there was always no question
                       about taking care of these people, because you know the ranch is in the boonies. Yeah I
                       remember that very well, those days were really something.


                MD:  Would you get a lot of travelers coming through,just stopping through, not only during
                       the Depression, I know there were a lot of Ramona seekers, did that continue after the del
                       Valle family was gone?

                SRL:  Oh yes! We called them Ramona hunters and they would just peer. We'd just be sitting at
                       the luncheon table and just look out and here are these people wandering through and you
                       know dad or mother would go out and ask if they could help them in any way. The ranch
                       was always open to visitors until after WWII, when dad was gone and mother remarried
                       and then it was closed. And that's why so many local people never knew this was here. I




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