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mean at least two generations went by, of people in Ventura County that weren't really
                        aware that this was here.


                MD:  Both my parents were born and raised here in Ventura County, so was I, and my father
                        and I used to come out here all the time and drove past this multiple times a month and I
                        never knew it was here until I heard it from my professors.


                SRL:  Right, well exactly, and so little by little, by word of mouth, we're becoming more and
                        more popular, we've had lots of visitors and tours, school tours, and weddings, various
                        other organizations have been coming and will have barbeques and other things for their
                       yearly whatevers, so we're doing more and more of those things, but it's a struggle, we
                        did get some grants after the earthquake from the president, you know he set aside money
                        for California after that earthquake for the historic buildings. So then we were discovered
                       and it was Getty, who formed a committee to come around and see all of these buildings
                       in Southern California, and they brought them here and that was the beginning  of helping
                       us. We didn't know weather we could ever repair it, it was a very tough time finically, in
                       the agriculture at that time, and so we got the first grant was from them and then there
                       was a second grant from the state and the county has given us some grants. So they
                       retrofitted the adobe first and then this past year we had money, but they gave it to us, but
                       they held it, for the small adobe, but they finally let it go, almost ten years after the
                       earthquake, so it has been retrofitted but in the mean time it has deteriorated so much by
                       not being retrofitted, so now we are in the process now of actually the Luvall family,
                       have a family trust for worthy causes. So they came, and none of them, they always knew
                       .about Camulos, but they had never seen it, so they came just two weeks ago, and it was
                       just incredible, and they all went through the small adobe and they saw, we pointed out to
                       them exactly what had been done there, and then they came down here and they really
                       enjoyed it tremendously, so they just recently gave us a wonderful grant, so that we can
                       finish the small adobe. And so little by little, it's just taking forever, I've given up,
                       frothing at the mouth and jumping up and down with impatience in getting things
                       repaired and done, but I'm up here as you can see, I'm down on my hands and knees
                       doing a lot of the grunt work. But we have wonderful docents and they all seem to be
                       tremendously pleased and excited in what their doing, they fall in love with it, and they
                       give marvelous tours. So its coming along, its just a, I feel that we've just past the point
                       of no return as far as being a complete failure, I think we've done enough of restoring it
                       and plans to restore it, with hopefully, we'll have to do a lot of fundraising, but we're
                       becoming better known. But of course this is a terrible time to ask anybody for money,
                       there are a few people, and the family has chipped in of course, and it's the next
                       generation of course who wants it, cause Boo and I are the only ones of my generation,
                       she still has a husband anyway. But I still have four kids and seven grand kids and she
                       has nine grand kids.


                MD:  Big family!

                SRL:  So we're here and were trying to, you know it's taken me awhile in these years since the
                       earth quake to ween myself from feeling this is my home, you know? I'm tremendously
                       interested in it, and I love it and all but I don't have that feeling that I belong here




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