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CT:    I  was  born  in  1950  and  I  remember  the  milk  coming  to  the
                        door.     They  still  do.

                 SRL:  As  a  little  child,  like  five  or  six,  we  had  three  or  four
                       -milk  cows  here  on  the  ranch,  and  there  was  a  little
                        pasteurization ...  the  little  buildings  are  still  there
                        across  the  road,  and  I  can  remember  drinking  the  milk  right
                        from  the  cow  - warm  milk  (it  was  always  kind  of  funny  -                I
                        liked  my  milk  better  cold).
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                CT:     Getting  back  to  the  dairy  as  far  as  chronology  is  conqerned,
                        he  started  the  dairy,  and  he  figured  in  order  to  have  a
                        great  dairy  he  needed  a  great  bull.             He  knew  the  Bards,  and
                        the  Bards  owned  Prince  Aggie.            Did  they  raise  him  from
                        infancy?

              SRL: I don't          know- that, I     don't    know that.      - He·  was a·young·  bull.

                CT:     So  then  your  father  bought  Prince  Aggie,  and  how  long  did  he
                        have  him  before  Prince  Aggie  was  killed?_

                SRL:  I  can  remember  when  he  was  killed.              I  can  remember  the
                        agonies  when  he  died;  the  days  before he  died,  .trying  to  get
                       help  arid  trying to  help  him  survive.              It  was  agonizing.


                SL:     Did  they  shoot  him?        I  doubt  they  told  their.little  girl.

                SRL:  I  don't  know,  but  I  remember  it was  a  big  huge  black cloud.
                               I  have  a  lot  of  very  early memories,  and  so  many  of
                       them  are ...  sensual.          Like,  the  atmosphere,  the  scent,  the
                       emotional  feelings.

                SL:    This  is  a  very  sensual  place;  you're  very much  aware  of
                       where  you  are.        You  feel  this  place.

                SRL:  I  have  one  very  vivid  memory,  when  I  was.a  baby,  taking  a
                       nap. in  a  carriage,  with  what  turned  out  to  be  a  mosquito  net
                      .over,  on  the  south  porch  there.             And  there  was  a  honeysuckle
                       vine  that  came  up  and  over  the  roof  there,  and  there  was  the
                       warmth,  and the  scent,  and  the  bees,  and  just  being  very
                       lazy  and  in  and  out  of  sleep;  hearing  conversations  of  my
                       Mother,  with  my  Aunt  or  other  women  friends.                 It  was  very
                       peaceful,  very  calm ...  and  that  stays  with  me.                 It's  the
                       darndest  thing,  and  I  was  a  baby  in  a  crib.

                CT:    You  probably  weren't  a  year  old.

                SL:    But  the  sounds  and smells  every  season  repeat  the  memory.


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