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they  brought  Eunice  along  too,  and  she  went  to  high  school
                        in  Santa  Paula,  when  Dad  developed  Billiwack.

                SL:·    So  they  lived  in  Aliso  Canyon,  and she  went  to Santa  Paula
                       High  School.

                SRL:  Right,  and  that's  where  she  met  and  married  Harry  Forbes.

                SL:    How  old  was  your  mother  when  she  married?

                SRL:  Sixteen.


                SL:    Okay,  the  book  said,  "His teen-age  bride"  and  made  it  sound
                       like  something  scandalous,  but  she  was  sixteen  when  they
                       married.       He  was  at    Harvard?

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   SRL:                He graduated         e-f before theywere married.                       ---
                SL:    And  they  married  and  came straight  west.


                CT:    And  they  married  in  Boston?

                SRL:  New  York;·  his family  had  been  there  for ....

                CT:    And  this  is  post-World  War  I;  he  has  been  gassed,  and  the
                       doctor  says,  "Don't get  a  job  in  an  office."  How  did  he
                       decide  on this  part  of  California?


                SRL:  They  traveled.          They  traveled  up  and  down the  state,
                       starting  way  up  north,  and  visited  all of               the  area.      You
                       know  Ventura  County,  the  ranchers ...



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               SL:     Your  parents  married  in  1923,  according  to  my  notes,  and  you
                       were  saying  that  the  ranchers  in  this  area  were  easterners,
                       so  did  they  know  peop;le in  the  Santa  Paula  area?

               SRL:  Yes,  we  knew  most  of  the  ranchers.               Every  year  from  the  time
                       of  my  earliest  memories,  we  had  open  house  at  _Christmastime.
                       This  was  a  custom  for  most  of  the  ranches.               We  did,  the
                       Lloyd-Butlers  always  had  one,  and  some  of  the  Shivelys
                       always  had  one,  and  the  Thilles,  and ...  you  know,  the  one
                       whose  house  is  now a  museum over  near  the  Naval  Base ....


               CT:-    Bard.



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