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SRL: No no no, this was after Billiwack. He did Billiwack first,
but he was doing· both together, something he should never
have done.

SL: They settled [first] in Aliso Canyon?
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SRL: Yes. They built a wonderful, modern for the time, log cabin,
a large--

CT: Is it still there?

SRL: I don't think so. I asked Auntie Eunie, she, of course,
remembers it very well. I think there was a fire,. or
something, years later, but it was quite a wonderful house.

SL: Did he design it, or just have it built, or did he
participate? ··· ·· ···· ··

SRL: Oh, I'm sure he participated. He participated in
everything. This building [the schoolhouse] he essentially
designed this. He always.got professional help, to be sure
it was viable (laughs) but yes, he did.
He bought Prince Aggie from the Bards.

SL: What do you suppose he spent on that bull?

SRL: A lot. I've heard it was a lot of money. You know, that's
something I don't bother my mind with (laughs), but it was
huge. He was a famous bull, and he made ·the circuit to all
of the cattle shows. This was··a·big thing.·
And he was murdered; he was murdered. He was fed a wad
of bailing wire, and they had vets trying to figure out what
they could do, and he died; he died.
But he was to_be "the stud king" for the dairy cattle.

CT: This is a great·story, so I'm going to try to pull more
detail out of you. Your mother and father have settled in
Aliso Canyon, \ built this log cabin, he decides to
open the dairy; why a dairy?

SRL: I've never asked that question but he had the latest equip-
ment for everything, for.pasteurization and all of that ..

SL: Ventura County may have been a good market at that time.

SRL: Well it was. They had trucks that delivered the milk; it
didn't go to markets, it went to homes. It was 1924, you
had your milk delivered.

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