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SRL:  -He ...  I  don't  know·  how  to  say  this ...  he's  a  developer.
                       That's ·his  business.          He's  a  millionaire,  a  multi-
                       millionaire,  and  he's  done  it all  himself.                 And  all  he  can
                       see  is  development.          He  does  not  see  the  value  of  the
                       agricultural  land  that's  fast  going  through  our  fingers
                       world  wide,  and  the  particular  value  of  this  historically.
                300           I'm  hoping  very much  (I've  been  mentally  writing  so
                       many  letters  to  him)  about  the  possibility  of  the  county
                       revisiting  the  forty  acre  part,  and  looking  at  the  map  very
                       carefully,  we  could  live  -.the  Museum  could  live  with  -
                       fifteen  acres,  very  nicely.            It  would  go  from  the  road ...  it
                       would  go  for  about  four  or  five  rows  of  trees  on  that-side
                       [west]  and  about  ten  rows  on  that  side  [east]  for  a  buffer;
                       from  the  highway  down  to  this  row  of -gum  trees,  instead  of
                       going  to  the  river.
                              When  I  first  had  to  cut  out  the  forty  acres  I.was
                   trying to         a VO id as   much of       the   g agriculturalland as        po possible.
                       so  I  went  straight  to  the  river  because  the  sand  down there·
                      _is  useless,  but  I  included  all  of  the  buildings  that  were
                       remotely  historic.
                              The  little  workers'  houses  across  the·road,  only  one  is
                       being  lived  in  now, but  they were  all  lived  in  until  just  a
                       very,  oh,  maybe  four  or  five· years  ago  and  those  were built
                       bef6re  the  turn  of  the  twentieth century,  and now  they're
                       being  eaten  up by termites.             I'm  restoring  one  of  them,  to
                       be lived  in,  because  we  do  need  people  living  on  the  ranch.
                              But  if  that  went  back  to the  ranch,  then  it would  be
                      the   ranch's  responsibility- (laughs).

               CT:     So  with  the  fifteen  acres,  you  think  he  -will  perhaps  be  more
                       amenable  to  that.

               SRL: I'm  hoping  very  much  that  he  will  be.

               SL:    And  Atlas  will  shrug.

               CT:    We  are  talking  really  about  future  history,  but  that's  why  I
                      am  including  this.          In  essence,  your  fearful  anticipation  is
                      that  he  might  want  to  develop .all  of  the  ranch  land  into
                      housing  tracts?

               SRL:  He  won't  be  able  to  because,  so  far,  this  is  the  green  belt,
                      you  know.      He  can't  do  that.         Until  that_went  through,  he
                      had  very  bright  eyes.
                              So  now he's kind  of ... - this  is  small  potatoes  to  him.
                      It  really  is  very  small  potatoes  to  him,.however,  he  can •..
                      it's a  control  thing.           He  can  block  things;  however,  Boo and
                      I  can  outvote  him.         However,  in  order  to actually  legally


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