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So they're coming from France, they're coming from
England, they're coming from anywhere, Europe, particularly.

SL: And how many do you expect?·

SRL: Well so far they've only got forty signed up, but they're
expecting a lot more.

SL: But normally the group would be how m_any?

SRL: Oh, it would be huge, over 100. Being in Zurich everybody's
close, but it's hard for young families to_ pick up, and the
expense, and come over here.

CT: It's great that you got them to do that though.

SRL: I'm really looking forward to it. It should be great fun.
Some of the young families should be there beca_use, for
three or four generations, there's been_a Rubel Family
Foundation which_ will put kids through universities.
If they can get into a university ... it pays for the
travel to come to this every five years, for them.· So if
they have the time to make it worthwhile to come all around
the other side of the world,- then cost is not- a factor.

CT: What responsibility does the Rubel family (outside of your·
immediate Rubel family here) have towards Camulos? Are they
involved at any level?

SRL: Well, during the depression, as everybody knows, the ranch
was mortgaged to the Swiss family. [The Rubels, doing
business in New York, have maintained dual citizenship- for
three or four generations.]

CT: To.keep it from going away.

SRL: To keep it afloat, yes. And we've always had lots of
"visitations.n My sisters and I had a joke, "I'm Swiss and
I'm spending the night." (Laughs) But then_they're such
warm and lovely people, it's a delight.
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SL: Did you know your husband's parents?

SRL: No, they had both passed away before my parents were
married.

SL: That's right, they passed when he was.a teen-ager and left
him-to handle the family. How many siblings were there?

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