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SRL: Yes.

SL: So this was the world of international finance; that was his
mother's family.

SRL: No, his father's family. No, I'm sorry, it was his mother's
father, but the Rubels were in the same financial thing too.
They had family members that had been in Brazil and
Argentina three and four generations; they were all very ....
Every five years they all come together, from all over.

CT: Did you have the reunion here yet?

SRL: It's coming· on August 1. They're coming here.

SL: Where was the last one?

SRL: They've always been in Zurichj until this time. I think
it's because of Peter [Rubel, first cousin of Shirley's
father, 15 years his junior] that they're coming. He won't
last much longer. But Ann and her family went, and of
course all of Peter's family. My nephew Mike Blatt and his
family were there, so it was really very nice.

SL: How many people do you expect to come to Camulos for this
next reunion.

SRL: Well, at last count ... the invitations are still coming in.
People have known about it, but the_fbrmal invitation and
the things they want to sign up to do... because they'll be_
here only one day, on the first - a big barbeque, the whole
thing. But plans_ for other things to do in the United
States once they get here ... : they're going to the Getty, and
they're going to the wine country ....
Actually,- one of_Peter's nephews is the Chairman of the
World Zoos, and so he has a special tour either just befroe
or_just aftir, with the L.A._ Zoo, so it's supposed to be
very special. He's a dear, dear person, and he's done
wonders with the Zurich Zoo.

SL: He's Chairman of the Zoos of the World organization? That's
extraordinary.

SRL: Yeah, it really-is, and he just knows so much, and has done
wonderful things with it. Anyway, he's coming. And then
another niece of Peter's, Hans Ueli's daughter married just
a beautiful Japanese sculptor, who's very well-known over
there.

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